Are Androids Better Than Women?
September 23rd, 2006I’ve given up having a “relationshipâ€? with a woman.
Maybe it’s that at 41 I’ve been screwed-over by women one too many times. Maybe it’s that every man I’ve ever talked to has been screwed-over by women one too many times. Maybe it’s that every man alive – regardless of his age – has been screwed-over by women one too many times. Maybe it’s that when looking as far back into recorded history as you care, men have been screwed-over by women.
Well, I’ve finally gotten the message and have sworn off women forever. Instead, I’m saving up for an AndyDroid.
AndyDroids are custom manufactured by a German company called “First Androids.” As a science fiction fan, I’ve followed the robotics industry for my entire life, and I agree with the First Androids company: these are the first that truly deserve the title “android.” Or perhaps more correctly, “gyndroid,” since all the company’s models are designed to appear female.
The AndyDroid is a life-sized, anatomically-correct, remarkably lifelike robotic simulation of a woman. It can simulate breathing, body heat, eyes that follow one when one moves, limited vocal response to situations, and so on. While nowhere near what we’ve come to expect from TV andoids like Star Trek’s Data, it’s clear that the AndyDroid is a dramatic step in that direction.
Furthermore, like Data, the AndyDroid is fully functional sexually.
Until recently I would have thought that an android was for losers. I assumed that only a man with no social skills, no looks, and no life would need to buy one.
I’m not a man like that: I’ve had girlfriends and lovers. I lost my virginity at age 16 (at a time when that was still rare). I was married for thirteen years and have two children that I love with all my heart.
An AndyDroid couldn’t be for me, could it?
I recently had occasion to reexamine my own experience with women and compare it to that of other men. What I found was shocking and undeniable: every man I talked to has experiences that mirror mine. In each case, very rarely did a relationship deteriorate for any reason other than the failings of the woman.
Understand that I’m not claiming to be perfect. I’ve made mistakes, and these have occasionally contributed to failed relationships.
What men are usually guilty of is as nothing compared to the standard behavior exhibited by the average woman.
In the first place, the fact is that women don’t like “nice guys.â€? They may say that they do, but they’re lying (usually to themselves). Women prefer men who are self-centered, callous jerks at best and violent drunks at worst. When presented with a “nice guyâ€? who listens to them, cares about their feelings, and tries to satisfy their needs, women inevitably grow bored.
Ordinarily, this would teach “nice guysâ€? like myself to become callous jerks, but for some reason it’s not in our nature. We keep looking for that “one special person who will appreciate us for who we are.â€?
In fact, no such woman exists. Instead, women constantly vie to be the center of attention in every situation. Chaos and artificial drama reign wherever they go. They nag, bitch, and carry on. They lie to your face and never bat an eyelash. They’re vain and spiteful.
They never once even consider that their behavior might be immoral, unethical, or just downright selfish.
They make lousy companions. They’re all smiles and excitement when doing what they want to do. When doing what the man wants to do, they drag their feet and make no effort to disguise their boredom. They make a point of getting even with the man later – sometimes much later – for forcing them to participate.
They’re a constant drain on a man’s finances. Under the best of circumstances, men pay for dinners, movies, events, etc. Under the worst, men end up paying for women’s every whim for the rest of their lives.
Does any man truly have a conception of how much money has been spent courting women and then in maintenance? How many men have loaned women “emergency money� for rent, groceries, utilities, etc. that was never repaid?
If a man wants children, he should be prepared to raise them himself even if he’s married. What’s more likely is that she’ll divorce him for a man with more money, use the children as a bargaining chip, and take him for every penny.
Women are rotten parents, unable to think of anything but their own selfish interests. If the children get in the way of their interests, they rationalize it as, “the children can’t be happy unless I’m happy.â€?
Then there’s the issue of fidelity. In a 2002 Canada Globe and Mail article, it was reported that researchers have discovered that 10% of all children weren’t sired by the woman’s husband.
Consider that for a moment: 10% of all children have a father other than their familial one. Since not every sexual intercourse leads to pregnancy (indeed, as a father, I know it really can be work to produce a child), this hints at tremendous numbers of women who routinely cheat on their husbands. If one out of ten are getting pregnant by someone else, how many are cheating but are smart enough to use birth control? 50%? 75%? No study can adequately guage, because the majority of women would lie to the poll-taker.
Do women bring emotional support to a relationship? No, they’re more likely to kick the man when he’s down than to help him to his feet.
There was a time when a man who lost his job could seek solace from his wife. She would put her arms around him, kiss him and say, “I’m not worried. I know you’ll be on your feet in no time. We’ll tighten our belts for a while, but I have faith in you.�
Today, if the man loses his job, the woman will scream, “I knew you were a loser!� and be searching for a hotter prospect before he even has a chance to sit down.
Do women make good, home-cooked meals? No, modern women know less about cooking than men. They make the same microwavable dinners as men. If a man wants a home-cooked meal, he better learn how to cook for the woman.
Do women provide a clean, well-ordered home? No, along with cooking, women abandoned housekeeping when they got themselves “liberated.� Men were required to pick up the slack, and now men keep house at least as well or better than women.
Do women even provide men with a regular sex life? No, men have far more sex before they’re married than after. Furthermore, after women have all the children she thinks she wants, men can look forward to a life of abstinence.
What sex woman deign to provide is generally lackluster. The man will usually orgasm, but the lovemaking is uninspired and boring.
My last girlfriend was the most fantastic lover I’ve ever had, but she suffered from BiPolar Personality Disorder. Hypersexuality is a common symptom of BiPolar.
That’s right: the cold, plain truth of the matter is that if a woman wants and enjoys sex as much as a man, there’s something wrong with her psyche.
Normal “well-adjusted� women are uninspiring lovers. They tend to just lay there. They don’t have any concept of the male body, nor do they appear to have any interest in exploring it. If a man wants them to do something, he must provide blueprints, step-by-step instructions, and a set of motivational tapes.
One interesting aspect of women’s incompetence in the bedroom is reflected on the magazine stands. Every week, one can find titles such as Cosmo and Seventeen that purport to tell women how to drive a man wild in bed. The content of these articles uniformly devolves to, “Fool around, experiment, and see what he likes.â€?
Men don’t need to have that obvious concept explained to them. Men fool around and experiment with our lover’s body because we enjoy it.
Furthermore,women might deign to perform sex acts that men enjoy — but grudgingly, and they bitch about it afterward. When men perform sex acts that women enjoy, they simply decide that satisfying her is more important than any short-term discomfort we might have and then do it.
Men don’t complain about it for a week afterward.
What would a woman do if a man bitched about sex the way she does? The woman would become spiteful, giving the man the cold shoulder for weeks and withholding sex until she felt he’d learned his lesson.
Furthermore, women are incapable of appreciating a good lover when they have one. I don’t mind saying that I’m quite good in bed. I’m not well-endowed and I don’t look like Brad Pitt, but I work hard and I use a variety of accoutrements to make absolutely sure that my lover enjoys herself.
It’s wasted effort, as it turns out. Giving a woman pleasure is something a man should do because he enjoys it, not for the woman’s sake. Women may enjoy the pleasure a man gives them, but not nearly as much as they enjoy bitching to their friends when they aren’t satisfied.
In the long term, you give your lover more pleasure by not satisfying her, because it provides fodder for endless cell phone calls to all of her girlfriends.
In all seriousness, what does a human woman have that a RealDoll doesn’t? A certain level of interactivity in bed, and that’s all. Given that most women just lie there anyway, is that additional interactivity worth all the chaos and financial ruin that a human woman will bring a man?
The sad, inescapable truth is that women are so amoral, expensive, and useless that they aren’t worth having a relationship with.
Consider:
- An AndyDroid isn’t a great companion, but so what? Neither is a woman.
- An AndyDroid isn’t emotionally supportive, but so what? Neither are women.
- An AndyDroid won’t make a home-cooked meal, but so what? Neither do women.
- An AndyDroid won’t keep house, but so what? Neither do women.
- An AndyDroid won’t be a fantastic lover, but so what? Neither are women.
Sure, it’ll cost as much as a mid-ranged SUV, but that’s a one-time purchase. A woman will demand several cars over the course of a marriage, and the man will have to put up with a selfish, spiteful, vain, deceptive, gossip-mongering, greedy, cheating bitch.
Even if you’re one of the few men left in the modern world whose wife hasn’t divorced him for a man with more money, do you really want to be stuck with a selfish, spiteful, vain, deceptive, gossip-mongering, greedy, cheating bitch for the rest of your life?
An AndyDroid isn’t selfish. It’s not spiteful. It’s not vain. It will never lie. It will never gossip with its girlfriends. It will never cheat on you.
Given what modern women have become, the AndyDroid sounds like the perfect woman to grow old with.
September 23rd, 2006 at 9:16 pm
Dakota, hello, you may be surprised to see me appearing on your blog. I am here because I would like to apologise for my recent posts to you. I am going to explain why I posted what I did, not to weasel out of it, but so that you know - ultimately it is up to you whether you accept this apology or not and it will make zero to little difference on our acquaintance in any case.
Just so you know, I do believe that it is your prerogative to believe that I am evil, but what you should know though is that I wasn’t typing to you in a cold, unfeeling, calm and calculating manner. I was mad at you at the time because you were ignoring my point in our ‘women in the military’ discussion, which was that I believed as long as female and male regiments are trained and stationed separately, there the issues of rape and banging each other in the shower and diminished morale shouldn’t necessarily arise.
I had also reached my limit with you because while I had not once insulted you during our discussion, you had occasionaly made gibes that I was naive and a cow etc, which reminds me of womenly deceptive, passive aggressiveness, which I don’t like, and honestly, why do that sort of thing, were you trying to provoke an aggressive, retaliatory reaction in me?
Secondly, you have for months seemingly been trying to tell me or to persuade me to question myself that perhaps I have a mental disorder, which, sorry, but I think that is pretty low. If you really were concerned about such a thing and decent about it, then you really shouldn’t be stating that publicly and instead should privately email the person about it. FWIW, I don’t have any mental disorder but am willing to admit that I do have an addictive personality.
Thirdly, I have been quite tolerant of you in the face of your attacks on me which also include repeatedly calling me a psycho hose beast and putting that poll up in the forums about me. This of course, doesn’t justify or excuse what I did, which I am sorry for, but you should realise that I felt pushed…I was and remain concerned about you.
September 24th, 2006 at 12:47 am
I think you need a second opinion on your mental status.
And your addictive personality clearly shows through as the attention whore you are.
September 24th, 2006 at 9:23 am
Female:
I’m sorry, but I do not accept your apology.
Had this been the first time or an isolated incident not reflective of your general attitude, I would. The unfortunate fact is that it’s not the first time by any means: not the first time with me, and not the first time with men on the site in general.
The unfortunate fact is that you’re not capable of rational debate. You apparently have some ingrained evil notions about the nature of men and women. This is probably a result of living in a feminist society that teaches evil ideas, but ultimately the individual must be responsible to accepting or rejecting them.
You are incapable of examining your own assumptions and checking them for validity. When you feel them threatened, you lash out at the nearest convenient target, and you hit below the belt. Fortunately enough for me, I bought a steel cup when I was married, so there’s little a woman can do that hurts me. You have to get me to take my cup off, first, and I don’t do that with just anyone.
You have, over the course of the last 18 months that I’ve posted, advocated everything from emasculation to male slavery to pedophilia. I understand that you’re incapable of recognizing this, and when confronted about it you resort to, “I was just joking!” I submit, however, that the fact that you feel free to “joke” about such things is indicative of just how ingrained your anti-male attitudes are.
As to the specifics of our discussion about female soldiers, I was not ignoring you. To my knowledge, I responded to every post you made.
In fact, I consider your attitude extraordinarily naive. Were your notions carried out, they would lead to women being serial-raped, gang-raped, and raped to death on the battlefield and as prisoners. I understand that you think otherwise, but this exhibits and extraordinary amount of naivete on your part. It’s one of those areas that you simply know absolutely nothing about. Please read any history of warfare to see what routinely is done to women.
War is a nasty, brutish business. It involves horrors and atrocities on the battlefield and off that I dislike thinking about, even I know that they’re common occurrances. The horror of war has not changed in the entirety of human history, and it’s naive folly to believe that just because feminism can put women on the battlefield that men will suddenly play nice with them.
Finally, there’s the issue of allowing you to participate on this blog. I’ve given this a great deal of thought, and I’m asking politely that you absent yourself. You’ve proven to be a disruptive influence at best on the main site, you have no history of change in that regard, and I don’t see any basis to assume that this has changed.
Rather than force me to moderate comments in order to prevent you from disrupting things, please refrain from posting.
I recognize as well that given the extraordinary number of times you’ve been asked/told/banned/promised to leave the main site, you probably lack the self-control to not post here, but I thought you deserved at least the request. The next time I see a post, I’ll institute moderating.
It’s unfortunate, Female, but over the course of 18 months, you’ve made it quite clear that you’re incapable of rational debate nor change. I’m not going to deal with it or engage you any more, I’m just tuning you out.
September 24th, 2006 at 12:53 pm
[…] His first post, “Are Androids better than Women?” probably falls more into the second category, but there’s a tremendous amount of meat in there. Just one small snippet: Then there’s the issue of fidelity. In a 2002 Canada Globe and Mail article, it was reported that researchers have discovered that 10% of all children weren’t sired by the woman’s husband. […]
September 24th, 2006 at 2:22 pm
Cool. Automated trackbacks. Thought it would do that, but wasn’t certain.
@Dakota, congratulations on the blog. I very much look forward to reading you, whether it’s opinion, fact or fiction. Even when I disagree with you, I find your writing interesting and thought-provoking.
On Female, I believe she’s sincere, but quite understand why you react as you do. She’s welcome to comment in this thread (on my blog), provided she abides by my general rules.
In the unlikely event of you ever feeling the need for a dose of her views, I’m sure you can find her there.
I’ve got a couple of thoughts on some subjects we could jointly blog on; perhaps I’ll shoot you a PM or email at some point.
Best,
-wolfe
September 24th, 2006 at 6:34 pm
Hey Dakota,
I don’t know if you have a rule about women posting in general on to your blog page as Dick has on MABTW.com but I just wanted to drop a post to say a quick congrats on your new blog and that I am reading what you have to write with interest.
Cheers
Luka
September 24th, 2006 at 10:27 pm
@wolfe: Thanks, and feel free to pm me or even email me. I’m reticent for spam reasons to publish it, but I did mention it on the main site to Sandra if you want to find it.
@Luka: Thanks, and no, I don’t mind women posting, provided it’s not disruptive.
September 25th, 2006 at 10:03 pm
Whew. Sorry you haven’t met a better woman. I became a bit depressed when I read of all “my” shortcomings in bed, but I’ve decided you’re not talking about me. As long as you’re happy, it’s all good.
Congrats on the blog - you’re a good writer.
~Z~
September 26th, 2006 at 12:18 am
Great Great great point of view. It read exactly as if I wrote it myself. 39. Male and completely done with them. Whats more is I make great money, I’m classically handsome, and I can dance. Great shoes. Great taste. I speak 4 languages, can tell a nasty joke better than anyone, and Im a better chef and housekeeper than any woman.
Never married or engaged thank Christ. No illegitimatye children. I have had MANY girlfriends whom I gave as much of myself to and cared about as much as I possibly could.
FACT: American women are the COLDEST bitches on earth. I have travelled the globe and lived in New York, Toronto, Vancouver, Amsterdam, Paris, Los Angeles and Tokyo. Never have I seen a society of such pathetic females. They should all be ashamed of themselves.
The paragraph that got to me the most … –> There was a time when a man who lost his job could seek solace from his wife. She would put her arms around him, kiss him and say, “I’m not worried. I know you’ll be on your feet in no time. We’ll tighten our belts for a while, but I have faith in you.â€?
There is no way you can even get a warm smile out of your woman anymore. No matter how hard you try or hope. They will NEVER care about they can do for you… they will merely yammer on about what kingdom they expect to be crowned queen of… and start listing what hoops you need to jump thought to keep them “happy”. What’s worse…. is that they dont even WANT to BE “happy”…. American women prefer to be miserable and bitch about it.
Here is the good news. You can hire a professional babe to come over and fuck you once a week YOUR WAY for WAY less than a wife. And she is NOT going home until you are completely satisfied.
If you tally up the cost of those draining bitches from the first date to the first alimony payment…. and devide it up over 10 years, you can get dream pussy every saturday and you dont even have to respect her.
The other day I told this seemingly nice girl that she should join me for dinner. “Im going out for sushi tonight…. you should join me for a few laughs if you like….. but you should know I am gonna want sex afterwards . . . so if you are not interested then please let me know right now so that I know wether or not I should hire a professional instead of wasting my time and money on you.”
She didnt go for it but I didnt care. I left the bitch in total shock and she will talk to her girlfirends about it, perhaps she will spread the word and GET THE MESSAGE that unless they can prove that they are worth out fucking time we are just NOT gonna be interested for ANY reason.
It was a great, GREAT feeling . . . . . Not to give a shit anymore. You want a man to give a single shit about you, you had better give him a reason to. While you are at it…. better give him 10 and remove all doubt.
I enjoyed reading your story. You are not alone.
- C
September 26th, 2006 at 6:34 am
@zogmama: As always, I consider it possible that there are exceptions to the rule. I’ve just never met one. I’ve thought I had, but in every case, it turned out that I was wrong.
And please don’t over-emphasize the sexual aspect. It comes out in the blog entry because my general thesis is that modern women in general offer nothing but limited sexual utility in a relationship. It’s obviously far more important that they offer nothing in terms of companionship and emotional support.
By the way, I’m sorry for what ’son of the suns’ is doing over on the main site. He’s completely out of line and in my opinion totally projecting It’s one of the few times I’ve seen a man go ape-shit with really no provocation. Wish there was something I could do about it other than attempting to bring it to his attention or telling him he’s crossed the line, but there isn’t.
However (and this is not in any way a justification for his tirades, as they’re clearly unjustifiable):
It’s my observation that women such as yourself — who give every impression of being one of the “good ones” — have a tendancy to dismiss my general points about women as coming from someone who’s had had a bad experience with a woman and is lashing out.
It’s definitely true that I’ve had bad experiences with women — serially and for the last 25 years, as a matter of fact. While some of the blame no doubt rests in my own choices, is it reasonable to think that every single woman I’ve had a relationship with was an aberration?
Furthermore, as Chris says, my experience is in no way unique. I’m not exaggerating when I say that I don’t know a single man who doesn’t have some of the same experience with women.
Is it reasonable to think that every single man I know personally has had the misfortune to experience an aberration?
And there are apparently so many men worldwide who’ve had bad experiences with women as to make this site popular enough to be self-sustaining.
The point I want to drive home to you, zogmama, is that assuming you’re personally what you appear to be in public — that is, “one of the good ones” — that means that you are actually the aberration.
Female behavior in general really is that bad.
Female behavior as I and many other men have observed it over the decades really is so pathologically self-destructive that it can take avowed feminists and make them into believers in the general superiority of male over female.
That’s what it did to me, zogmama. Twenty years ago, I was a feminist — and then I learned better.
Again, I’m willing to admit that there are probably exceptions to the rule. I’ll be thrilled if I finally meet one personally. Still, until I do, the safe bet is that the next woman I’ll meet is a selfish, lying, attention whore just like the last three hundred were.
The unfortunate thing is that because I’m a man, there’s nothing I can do about it. Women who need to change their behavior will dismiss me because I’m a man, making my opinions invalid for a variety of reasons.
If change is to ever occur, it must originate with women like yourself.
Consequently, you have to see just what an aberration you are, zogmama. If you’re truthful about who you are and your experiences, you are an enormous aberration in terms of how women treat men. I cannot stress this to you enough. You are extraordinarily unusual, and it’s deeply important for you to recognize this fact.
The reason it’s important is simple: I won’t change a single woman’s behavior because she’ll dismiss me because I’m male. You, on the other hand, will be listened to if you choose to say something to other women about their behavior.
Me coming on here and ranting represents just that: pointless ranting. It makes me feel better to write it, and it makes other men feel better to read it, but in the end that’s all. It will never change anything because women won’t pay the slightest bit of attention to a man being critical of their behavior.
They will, however, listen to a woman.
So please, look around at the general behavior of women towards men. If you see them treating men as nothing more than a walking wallet to be discarded the moment they’ve been emptied, say something about it. If you have girlfriends that call to bitch to you and fifty other girlfriends about the latest percieved shortcoming in their man, question it.
Men’s needs really are awfully simple. We just want a woman who loves us, treats us decently, and won’t constantly complain about how terrible we are. Part of the problem is that other women unconditionally support this.
I will never, for example, forget being berated by my ex’s best friend for calling the police when my ex assaulted me. It never occurred to a mother in her forties that a woman assaulting a man was unacceptable: as far as my ex’s friend was concerned, I was the one to be blamed.
In my opinion, a real friend wouldn’t have blindly supported her. She should have pointed out that my ex was way, way over the line.
Please be one of the women who points out when another woman is over the line. I can bitch until my fingers are raw from typing, but no woman will ever listen to me. They’ll listen to you.
September 26th, 2006 at 9:20 am
It’s interesting, isn’t it? I truly don’t know if certain people give off a particular “vibe” that attracts the wrong type of attention, from the wrong type of person. Women’s magazines constantly coach us to project what we want to attract. Of course, if that were the answer, there wouldn’t be so many unhappy people licking their wounds after failed relationships.
The generalizations you make about women are based on personal observation and experience; that’s all any of us has, in the end. What we do with that experience makes a lot of difference in how our lives play out. What I see on MABTW is a constant circle of blame - it goes round and round, male to female and female to male - and it’s like a dog chasing its tail.
If I were to make the same generalizations about men, based on my personal observation and experience, I would say that men are liars, and cheats, and abusers. I choose to believe instead that some men are all of those things, but the majority are not. And even the “bad guys” have the potential to be better.
I’m no one to put on a pedestal - and I don’t believe in proselytizing, either. I live my life the way that I believe is right, I treat others with respect, and I fail daily - in ways large and small.
Small successes abound - what you see in my posts is what you get in my real life. I refused to stoop to abusive language, taunts, or legal wranglings in the course of my divorce. It was one of the hardest things I’ve done - but coming out the other side, my teenage son wrote an essay about me when the assignment was “My Hero.”
There is nothing wrong with venting, discussing, debating and dissecting “politically incorrect” views. But each time a poster personalizes and sexualizes a response, it incrementally discredits the philosophy and creates a clamor that blunts the message.
I guess I don’t see it as a gender war - I see it as a million tiny struggles that each of us has to face every day with honor and accountability, regardless of our chromosomes.
~Z~
September 26th, 2006 at 10:03 am
zogmama, I didn’t see it as a gender war until I became one of its victims.
We live in a society in which it is perfectly acceptable for a woman to assault a man and be awarded custody of the children; yet if the man assaults a woman he’ll be put on trial and be denied access to the children.
We live in a society in which it is perfectly acceptable for a woman who earns $80K annually to recieve one-fourth of the salary of a man who earns $50K annually as child support. In that same society, it is seen as appropriate that he struggle under crushing debt while she take the children to Disneyworld, buy TVs for their rooms, and so on.
We live in a society in which it is perfectly acceptable for a woman to take the children as far away from their father as she likes; yet a man who removes his children from their mother is scorned and derided.
We live in a society in which it is perfectly acceptable for a woman to deride a man in jest; yet if a man does precisely the same thing to a woman, he’s called “sexist.”
I could go on indefinitely. There are all manner of things that a man does that are considered horrible but that are acceptable behavior for a woman. This is not a matter of opinion based on limited observation, this is a matter of legal fact.
There is a gender war in the West, started by feminists and being waged unwittingly by women in general who benefit from it.
As I say, I didn’t think that until I’d been through my divorce and realized just how bad things were. It wasn’t just my observation, either: over the course of my divorce and custody battle, I had three attornies, one of them female. Every single one of them said the exact same thing:
“Well, Dakota, this is off the record, of course. But yes, there’s massive discrimination against men in the legal system. It’s become acceptable for the law to think of you and treat you like blacks before the Civil Rights movement.”
Three attornies told me that — three. And one was a woman.
It’s not just me, zogmama. It’s not just my anecdotal experience, not the experiences I’ve heard about from friends and acquaintances. It’s the experience of three separate, unrelated attornies who make a living in family law.
I must reiterate: you are an aberration, zogmama. Your experience with your ex is highly unusual: in most cases, the situation is totally reversed.
If none of this convinces you of the severity of the problem, would you consider doing one other thing for me? Buy a copy of the book The Proper Care and Feeding of Husbands by Laura Schlessinger.
I know, I know: she’s not everyone’s cup of tea, particularly feminists. She’s not even my cup of tea after September 11, because she went into “mind-numbed robot follower” mode.
However, that book in particular is fantastic. It recounts many, many stories from men who were miserable, crying out for any level of love and consideration from their wife. I saw myself in every page, and that’s the experience of the overwhelming majority of men I’ve talked to that read the book.
Women in general are mistreating men without even thinking about it twice. You are the aberration rather than the rule.
I wish this weren’t the case, I really do. But the universe is what it is, not what we want it to be.
September 26th, 2006 at 10:19 am
@Dakota: I’m sorry if you felt I was missing your point. I’ve had my wrist slapped (lightly & politely, of course) by wolfe for posting on MABTW and for being passive-aggressive. You have every right and every reason to feel as you do. I sincerely hope that you did not take offense at any of my comments.
I’m a firm believer in dialogue and maintaining an open mind. I can’t know what you know as a man, but I ask that you acknowledge that you can’t know what I know as a woman. Upon reflection, it is apparent that I don’t belong in these blogs.
~Z~
p.s. I’ve been called plenty of things in my day, but “aberration” is a first. I’ll remember that.
September 26th, 2006 at 10:41 am
@zogmama: I didn’t mean “aberration” in a negative way. In your case, being an aberration is entirely positive. I wish there were more aberrant women around.
September 26th, 2006 at 10:54 am
@zogmama:
As for “belonging” in the blogs …
That’s your call to make, of course. I think if I were you, I’d stay away from the main site. While I consider Sots’ remark about beheading abhorrant, I do rather understand how he comes to hold that position. There have been days — particularly the day my female attorney left me high and dry in the middle of my custody battle because she went on maternity leave — that I briefly felt the same way. I’m not defending Sots, I’m just saying that there are days when I’m awfully pissed-off.
I don’t discount your experience at all. I don’t claim that there aren’t men like your ex out there — obviously there are. I don’t claim that men don’t cheat on their wives. I don’t claim that men are by any means perfect.
I’m even open to the possibility that all my experience, the experiences of the men I know, the experience of my attorneys, and even the experiences recounted by the men on this site are limited. It’s possible that we all represent the worst of what men can experience, and if we all just got into the right place, we’d experience something better.
It’s just hard for me to buy it, that’s all.
I wish very much that life would provide me with experience to suggest I’m wrong about all this, I really, really do. There have been occasions when I thought it had, but in each instance, life ultimately taught me that I was right in the first place.
Put it this way: if I’m wrong, where does a 40-year-old professional man go to find women who are psychologically well-adjusted and generally treat men with respect, consistent affection and occasional emotional support? If there’s such a place, I’d love to find it.
September 26th, 2006 at 11:11 am
@Dakota: No easy answers here. I’m pretty sure I’m not unique; I try to surround myself with like-minded people, both male and female.
Misogynist = strong word that upsets you
Feminist = strong word that upsets me
I don’t know where you find the woman you described in your last paragraph, since I don’t give out my personal information (this is humor).
I know that you won’t find her on mabtw; I’ve been shown that a woman like the one you describe is not welcome there. I find it interesting that female posters of smrtpants’ and sandra’s ilk seem to hang on. Often, their only accomplishment is the ability to withstand being called c–t and w—e.
I guess the question to be asked is: could any woman live up to your expectations? You obviously had faith in your female attorney, or you wouldn’t have hired her. And yet, you were angry that she went and had a baby when it was inconvenient for you. I’m not ‘baiting’ you here - but as a professional woman who worked up to her due dates (and beyond, once) - I want to know what your POV is.
Does the ideal woman educate herself, enter the workforce and contribute financially to her family? Or is it more acceptable to eschew professional aspirations to stay home and raise children? Many of us try to do it all, and are constantly nagged by the feeling we are doing none of it well. We get it from other women on a daily basis, and at mabtw, it feels even more like a lose/lose proposition.
~Z~
September 26th, 2006 at 12:54 pm
@zogmama: Actually, “misogynist,” “feminist,” and “misandrist” all upset me.
As to your humor, I doubt it would matter. I’m legally incapable of leaving South Dakota, since this would trigger another custody battle that I simply can’t afford. I would also have to rework my child support payments — and trust me, I can’t afford to give her more than 1/4 of my salary.
Conversely, the last I knew, there was no space industry in South Dakota save the EROS Data Center in Sioux Falls, and that’s hardly the same as NASA.
I wasn’t particularly looking for a great woman on MABTW. This is where I come to bitch with understanding men. However, the women I bitch about are the ones I met at school, at work, at social occasions, and in one case at a bar. I’m unclear where else I could go to meet women that would provide me with a better opportunity to meet “one of the good ones.”
As to my female attorney and her pregnancy, it wasn’t that it was inconvenient to me, it was that it put the custody of my children in extreme jeopardy. We didn’t yet have an agreement, and my ex was literally packing my children off to Chicago without any intention of letting me have them for the summer. It took two weeks to get things straightened out with my new attorney, and the only reason I ended up seeing the kids was because my ex got side-tracked for a couple of weeks herself.
It’s wasn’t my inconvenience that bothered me. It was the welfare of my kids.
As to my expectations, they’ve become relatively strict. In no particular order:
1. Must be a good potential step-mother. I have children, I’ll be constantly working to have effective custody of them, so she must be prepared to be a step-mom.
2. No psychological maladustments nor indicators of such. This vaguely impacts physical appearance in that both morbid obesity and emaciation are indicative of psychological problems. I’m not concerned with physical appearance beyond that point.
3. Must have some conception of what life is like without money so that she appreciates when money is plentiful.
4. Must appreciate being treated like a lady (doors held for her; expects me to pay for dinners and events but appreciates that it cost me money and is consequently grateful that she was spared the expense).
5. Is capable of being emotionally supportive (see my description of what used to be a common reaction from wives if a man lost his job). Not emotionally or verbally abusive in the slightest. Sees my shortcomings as something to be worked around rather than worked on.
6. Does not gossip about my shortcomings with her friends. The shortcomings of myself and my mate are between us: publicly, we each tell our friends that the other is wonderful.
7. Is reasonably intelligent. I don’t require the same intelligence as myself, but not significantly below it. Above it is perfectly fine.
8. Has a sense of humor. Can laugh at Jay and Silent Bob and South Park. A particular bonus if she finds the puking scene in Team America as hysterical as I do.
9. Does not believe that government should be the arbiter of first choice in all matters. I don’t expect the same level of mistrust of government that I have, but I doubt I’d get along with an outright socialist for long.
10. Workforce or family? Less than relavent at this point, given my familial situation. I’m currently able to arrange my work schedule so that I’m off at 3pm, making me available for parenting the moment my kids are out of school. In the summer, it would be nice if she were able to be at home during the day with them, but I recognize that the divorce may have simply made this impossible.
11. Sexually … well, this is kind of personal. I do have one or two actual requirements, but I probably shouldn’t discuss them in public. Send me private email if you’re really interested. They’re nothing bizarre or unusual, just things I’ve learned in a quarter of a century.
Can any woman live up to those expectations? Well, I find that most eliminate themselves on #1. Another fair percentage are gone on #2. By #4, there’s no one left.
Does that mean that my expectations are excessive? Possibly. Conversely, I’ve tended to settle for less than my expectations in the past, and I know where that gets me.
September 26th, 2006 at 1:44 pm
Repeat: HUMOR. I’m not looking for a mate, mechanical or otherwise - just trying to suss out what makes you tick.
Shoe on the other foot then. Would you be a good stepfather? Not many qualified stepmothers who haven’t done the job from scratch themselves. I don’t know that I’d be very good at it, since I’m wickedly prejudiced toward my own children.
No psych maladjustments. That’s a good benchmark, but things do change in the course of a relationship. My ex was manic-depressive, but this wasn’t apparent at the outset. I rode it out for a long time, because I reasoned that if it were another organic illness (diabetes/arthritis/Alzheimers), it would be heinous to cut and run.
Appreciation for hard times. Amen.
Being treated like a lady. From the female perspective, that’s a tough one. Every man is different, and many don’t communicate well as to what they want or expect in this regard. That being said, I never miss an opportunity to engrain courtly behavior in my sons.
Emotionally supportive. That one hits close to home. My spouse had returned to work, then in the span of a week lost his job and a treasured niece. I shouldered additional responsibilities at work, relocating away from my family to earn more. Five months later he dropped a bomb on me that I still don’t care to share. I’ve had to fight cynicism and bitterness in myself every day since then.
No gossip. I don’t know that the women I know (a) say as much as you think they do and (b) share those things for the reason you believe. In the case of uncommunicative men, sometimes it’s just a release - I spent years asking “what’s wrong” and being told “I’m just tired.” Lies.
Intelligence. Have you ever dated someone you believed was more intelligent than you? Most men can’t handle it - kudos to you if you can.
Sense of humor. Amen again - though a visceral aversion to vomiting made me drop out of pre-med.
Government? I’m somewhat uninformed, by choice. Have plenty of black helicopter spotters in my extended family, which may have influenced me in this regard.
Worforce/family. I wasn’t cut out to be a stay-at-home mother, and my children agree. We are very close, and I am very nurturing, but we are all three most independent in spirit.
Sexually….yes, it’s personal.
~Z~
September 26th, 2006 at 2:02 pm
zogmama: I’m a little uncomfortable with the public nature of this discussion. It’s starting to get just personal enough that I’d rather take it private than have it out where the whole world is watching.
I have your posting email address as a consequence of being notified when replies are made to the blog. Do you mind if I reply via email?
September 26th, 2006 at 2:21 pm
Ugh. I didn’t take it that way. Just remove the posts - I shan’t be offended.
No need to respond - but email is fine.
~Z~
September 27th, 2006 at 3:25 am
Androids are the future for western men if woman keep getting their ways:):):):):)
September 27th, 2006 at 12:08 pm
@Zog To clarify: I don’t think you are passive-aggressive. I did think a bit of what you wrote could be taken that way.
@Dakota When shall we have the joy of another Dakota Smith Rant? (Mind you, since I was reduced to posting about 2 headed snakes today… I can hardly talk!)
-wolfe
September 27th, 2006 at 11:07 pm
Hey Dakota,
Good to see you writing a blog. I have my own however I haven’t really had the time to do anything with it. However if you dont mind I will offer a few observations.
I agree almost completely with much of your 1st blog post. Women don’t offer much of anything besides sex. I have posted several times on both matriarchal systems and feminism in general, and in my belief I think that what you have went through is the end result of allowing women to do what they “feel” like doing without allowing any repercussions for their actions.
I am 26 years old Dakota, and I have already gone through much of what you have. I have “lost” both of my children due to womens selfish choices (her drug addiction, my state-imposed poverty, and the lust of money) I awoke to the shackles that are placed upon many men when I started working at the age of 14 and at the age of 26 I have freed myself from the matriarchy. I have gone through the lies, the self-justifcation, the hypocrisy, the ignorance . I had my first child when I was 19, the mother of my first child turned into a horrible drug addict, if you look at my myspace profile you will see how much I hate Crystal Meth. The mother of my second child, well that is a personal issue. However, she decided that an Army man was her way to go, so after spending five years with her, she packed up for Missouri and told me not to call at all. This is of course after I had spent the last five years helping raise my first son and 3 years helping raising my second. Of course women are so empathetic, thats why she broke up with me on the anniversary of my Mothers death, which was a year before.
I understand your bitterness, and sarcasm. It’s the only thing that you have left. I prefer alcohol over the Andydroid personally.
September 27th, 2006 at 11:17 pm
DAKOTA….
You said –> Female behavior in general really is that bad.
That is the absolute truth no matter WHERE you look and OBSERVE.
I have deliberated for years… where the real ROOT of the problem comes from and what must FIRST be done about it. Having 20 years of experience behind me… the apple FINALLY fell out of the tree and hit me square on the head. I had found the common denominator into this very real problem and the solution literaly jumped out at me.
I picked up a fashion magazine recently which lay among MANY and noticed - for the first time ever - the “message” was right on the cover. Not in the title, or the words….. but in their faces. These women with NO SMILE splattered across the ENTIRE RACK of magazines on every single topic (including cars!) all in unnatural, somewhat overly-confident, “sexy” poses looking down their noses at the camera as if to say . . . .
“You don’t know me. But I already know . . . . If you are a woman, you want to BE me. If you are a man, I know you want to be WITH me . . . . AND I DISRESPECT YOU FOR IT.”
This is being bombarded into every man’s mind constantly. In every single facet of AMERICAN society from Television, the internet, music, literature, film…. everything.
The ONLY magazines which did NOT convey this message, where the women’s ONLY magazines. A totally different message. Bright smile. Fun fun fun. Hapiness. Pretty dress. Positive energy and bright eyes.
HOLY CRAP. I started paying attention and saw it everywhere. EVERYWHERE including the women on the street , at cafes, in cars that pass by when you look and smile at them, bilboards, movies, music videos….. it’s disGUSTING!!!!
And we are all BUYING IT!!!!!
THAT is the problem. MEN ARE BUYING IT!!! Well…. I am not “buying it” anymore. Women act like this purely on credit. They have done NOTHING to EARN our adoration yet… we don’t even know their names and they’re walking around with this message in their heads that just because they have a pussy in their pants , they have the right. Gorgeous woman walks into a room, and the men just SMILE and ADORE and want to be with her no matter what kind of BITCHY look she has on her face.
BUT!!!!!!!
All this behavior and attitude comes to an abrupt halt when she stops GETTING AWAY WITH IT. When I see a woman like that, I literally turn my back on her…. and I make sure she knows it. Instantly I become DIFFERENT to her. Different from all the others who worship her in advance. Men can assume 1000% that ALL WOMEN ARE CONSTANTLY SEEKING VALIDATION. You can live your life knowing this is absolutely true every day with every woman you will ever meet for as long as you are alive.
I said before…. women act like this on CREDIT. They have done NOTHING to show, prove or earn ANY special status where men are concerned… and until they do…. its a man’s mother-fucking responsibility to POINT IT OUT!
However….. Men are nice. Too nice. When women behave badly , we WANT to be nice and say things like “what’s wrong?” instead of “Why are you behaving like total BITCH?!” We see something wrong, identify it and WANT to fix it. We WANT things to WORK. The NICE and EASY way. It’s the way we are made. But gents, if you do this with a woman, it will NOT WORK. You will be AMAZED at how GOOD it can be for YOU to say something to the effect of ….
“I dont accept second class behavior from anyone and I am not enjoying myself. Unless I am enjoying being around you, I will not want to be. If you want me to be with you, respect you, enjoy you, and be entirely commited to you, you will have to give me good reason to be. Or you may leave. It’s entirely up to you.”
I cannot stress how much of an effect a statement like that can make. On HER…. and on YOURSELF.
In that instant she knows she has to EARN it. And HER failed effort to INVEST means NO MORE VALIDATION or INVESTMENT from you. She will now have ONLY HERSELF to blame if it doesn’t work out. She will know the blow-job had better be spectacular EVERY TIME. She had better greet you with a warm smile when she sees you. She had better not tell you what she wished you gave her for Valentine’s INSTEAD. She had better be glad to get an OILY RAG from you which you stood in line to buy. And if she would rather go for Itaian than Sushi…. FINE!…. she pays. Or she can leave. No problem.
THIS IS KEY! –> UNLESS SOMEONE IS A DIRECT ENHANCEMENT TO YOUR LIFE…. THEY HAVE NO BUSINESS BEING THERE. This goes for women too. This goes for everyone. Because if you KEEP DOING WHAT YOU HAVE ALWAYS DONE…. YOU ARE GONNA KEEP GETTING WHAT YOU ALWAYS GOT!
I used to have a reasonable list of requirements and expectations to be met which seemed fair and not asking much . . . . but over the years I managed to narrow it down to three absolutely bar essentials.
1. You must respect my time and my property. No flakeyness or not respecting what is mine. My time is the most important thing to me. Respect it.
2. I gotta be having a good time…. ALL the time. Or there really is no point. Dont misunderstand, I can be a realy good friend when times are tough, but it MUST be enjoyable for me.
3. You have to be direct with me. Dont say what you dont mean or assume I care to guess what is going on in your head. I am not interested in being a mind reader. If you have a problem, bring it to my attention so I can decide what I am willing to do about it….. or fix it yourself.
And once a year…. on a day that isn’t my birthday, perhaps you could find it in your heart to smile at me and offer to make me a little something to eat. Even if I am not really hungry. As I tell you a funny joke I heard while you watch me enjoy it.
After 20 years of loving, caring and looking . . . I have NEVER met a woman like that.
- C
September 28th, 2006 at 12:07 am
Z SAID –> “I never miss an opportunity to engrain courtly behavior in my sons”
LMFAO.
Yeah I bet you do. I bet you train them to be wimps for women and extend them every courtesy in advance …. to ALWAYS treat them like a lady, etc.
Well….. my Mom did too. Unfortunately for a LONG time I didn’t ever ask her “but Mom! what do I do if she doesn’t BEHAVE like a lady???” Now THAT would have been some REALLY useful information.
Do your sons a favor and teach them to treat people the way they deserve and ask to be treated. Or they will be marched all over by every girl they meet (like/love) for the rest of their lives, and you won’t have a clue as to where you went wrong. Niether will they.
Every women/mother does this instinctively. And they are not even aware of it. Teaching their sons to be kiss-asses for NO REASON in advance.
” Bring her flowers. Tell her she is beautiful and that you love her every day. And when you are ready , be sure to spend 1 year of hard-earned after-tax savings (that’s what 2 months salary really is) on a ring, get down on your knee and symbolically offer to purchase her.”
no no…. instead of “engraining courtly behavior in them” knowing women in AMERICA . . . . TEACH THEM THIS:
Watch out for girls with no job or aspirations to be anything other than a girlfriend/wife/mother. Don’t EVER like/love a girl for ANY reason other than the way she treats you. No matter how “beautiful” she is. Insist that she takes her pill infront of you. ALways use a rubber . Open the package yourself and put it on yourself. Be polite to EVERYONE not just girls. No woman will respect any kiss-ass behavior from you. If a girl is no fun to be around tell her so and show her the door without hesitation or remorse. Any headache is worth NOT having.
Do not offer to “PURCHASE” her attention or affection. That is like hanging a sign around your neck which says “I believe I am not worthy of a girl like you so I am going to offer you a ‘MEAL INCENTIVE’ so that you dont feel you are wasting your time.”
Do not ASK A WOMAN FOR PERMISSION to “take her out”. Do you really want to put yourslef in a position where HER “YES” or “NO” depends on wether or not YOU will have a good time??? Tell her YOU ARE GOING OUT TONIGHT… and she SHOULD JOIN YOU. Do not ASK her if she would be interested. You should already KNOW that she should be. So say it some other way.
So many people are unaware of the concept of ATTRACTION. You cannot GENERATE atttraction by “engraning coutrly behavior” in your sons. Any woman who finds a man like that should be delighted for she has juts found the perfect DOORMAT…… who will one day….. start a blog exactly like this wondering WHERE ON EARTH HE FUCKED UP.
- C
September 28th, 2006 at 5:52 am
@Chris: It’s clear that men can’t be painted with a single brush stroke, as male posters diverge on the matter of treating women “like ladies.” Most, however, imply that they prefer to behave as a traditional “gentleman” would, and are frustrated when women do not appreciate their gestures of courtesy.
Your comments seem to indicate that you find these courtesies futile and offensive. You are entitled to that opinion, of course. I, on the other hand, believe in seeing the best in others until they as individuals prove otherwise. I’ve stated elsewhere that I also believe that all of society is sadly lacking in what we used to call “good manners.”
Respectfully submitted,
~Z~
@Dakota: I haven’t seen your rules for posting; please direct me where to find them, or simply advise whether women are allowed to post. Thank you.
September 28th, 2006 at 9:50 am
@Zog, Dakota responded above:
A lot of what Chris says is sensible advice in preventing oneself from being a doormat, and, moreover, is not incompatible with being polite. (Some of it is, sure).
-wolfe
September 28th, 2006 at 1:19 pm
[…] On the other hand, for commenter Chris? A great many women in North America have enormous privilege — social, financial, biological, and legal. As he puts it: I said before…. women act like this on CREDIT. They have done NOTHING to show, prove or earn ANY special status where men are concerned… and until they do…. it’s a man’s … responsibility to POINT IT OUT! […]
September 28th, 2006 at 1:23 pm
And as the above trackback indicates, I stole much of today’s post on my blog from this thread. Thanks Chris, Zog, and Dakota.
Feel free to join the discussion over there.
-wolfe
September 29th, 2006 at 1:12 am
While POLITENESS should be extended to EVERYONE…. no extra/forced “gentlemanly” behavior has ever inspired the TRUE feeling of ATTRACTION in a woman.
For a woman, ATTRACTION is something that is not a CHOICE. She cannot explain it…. or control it…. or even talk herslef out of feeling geniunely attracted to even the WRONG kind of man.
It is extremely important for a man to remind himself “I AM NOT A GENTLE-MAN. I’M A MAN. I AM NOT A NICE GUY. BUT I AM NICE”. Keeping his “courtly” behavior in check is the right thing to do as EVERYONE knows… NICE GUYS FINISH LAST, and GENTELMAN wont ever get a star heaven where women are concerned.
No woman ever fell head over heels for a man so willing to extend her every courtesy. Which explains why TOMMY LEE is enjoying PAMELA AMDERSON and HEATHER LOCKLEAR who have their worldwide pick of “MEN” and found themselves “strangely” attracted to HIM.
“I find myself STRANGELY attracted to him” is a magic phrase for women. It means infintely more to her than “GOD he is a such a nice, gentleman”. And, the reasons almost always go against what she knows may not be nescessarily BEST for her. Politeness and manners play absolutely no role when it comes to the issues of men and women today. NONE.
Teach the men to be poilte and have a certain amount of respect for al kinds of life….. but NEVER extend a woman any extra courtesy until she has proven herself worthy. It’s only fair.
Unless of course…. you are OK with wallowing in the UNFAIR after it’s over.
- C
September 29th, 2006 at 1:55 am
ZOG SAID –> ” It’s clear that men can’t be painted with a single brush stroke”.
Well, here is a shocker –> Yes they can. Men are so simple and LINEAR in their thinking that it would boggle a woman’s mind if she could only allow herself to understand HOW simple.
Not long ago…. I had a thought while petting a freinds dog while a screaming fire engine went by. And I said “GOD I would hate to be a DOG! They must have a zillion questions in their heads and you cant explain the answer to them”.
DOG: “What is that wierd white stuff that randomly falls from the sky, and why do I shiver when I spend too much time outside? Why is that BIG RED thing on the road making all that noise?? What is that smell (bacon) and I why do I crave it so much.” This must drive dogs INSANE!!!!
Then I realized that a dog’s mind is NOWHERE NEAR that complex. They are concerned about 3 things only….
CAN I EAT IT?
CAN I FUCK IT?
CAN I PISS ON IT.
And THAT’S ALL! Every situation and every moment of a dog’s life is spent answering those questions and no others. Can I eat it? Thats number one - for their survival. Can I fuck it? That’s for pleasure and instinctual reproductive behavior…. and if the answer is NO to BOTH of those questions….. “THEN I MAY AS WELL JUST PISS ON IT AND MOVE ON TO THE NEXT THING.”
And then it starts all over again. So simple everything else is completely ignored. No further questions or concerns. Observe your dog…. that’s all he cares about. Linear. Simple. Just like a man who needs to get his simple things done and move on to the next thing. And, all the while …. dogs are eager and willing to please and offer love in return.
Now let’s look at CATS….. WOMEN!
They have claws and they will use them to get where they need to get. They dont care if they scratch you on the way there. They will maniplulate you into feeding them by purring, being affectionate and cute and once you give it to them they retreat to the corner to begin pruning & licking themselves. Literally. They are not concerned about giving you affection. They are content to do not very much at all.
DOGS ARE LOYAL “EMPLOYEES” WHO WILL MEET YOU AND GREET YOU WITH A WAGGING TAIL, EAGER TO PLEASE AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY, AND ARE CAPABLE & PREPARED TO OFFER UNCONDITIONAL LOVE.
CATS HAVE STAFF.
- C
October 4th, 2006 at 11:25 am
What a fascinating idea! Men are like dogs and women are like cats? That an interesting comparison you made…although I can’t say I agree with the notion that men are as simple as you claim - I am more of the opinion that most people’s needs are simple on some level.
I think that almost all human beings want to be loved, valued, accepted, they want to feel pleasure rather than pain, want to be happy rather than sad… I think it is safe to say that men and women, are not much different when you reduce their needs and desires into a simplistic explanation such as this. Yeah, men and women are quite simple creatures when you reduce them to this level.
Although we are all made of a similar clay we are all chipped and carved into an identity based on our DNA but also from our life experiences and society. Although this doesn’t change the core desires and needs of being human, it does change our beliefs as to how we are going to achieve these needs and desires. This is what builds individual complexity ontop of something that appears simple.
One person may believe in their religious faith and think that their faith in a high power helps to makes them happy, whereas another person may believe that finding fame and fortune would make them happy. Yet another person may think that being the centre of attention would make them happy…I know that even my explanation of this is far too simplistic.
Basically I don’t think men are simple creatures. Nor do I contest that women are complicated creatures either. I think men and women are both…I know this is a contradiction but that doesn’t make my point less valid. Human beings are on some levels simple but on other levels complicated - this contradiction in terms creates who we are as individuals… is it not possible afterall that we have conflicting desires at the same time?
October 4th, 2006 at 11:06 pm
Yes….. it IS a fascinating idea!! And everything depends on how you look at it.. . . but if you step back from the picture and consider the notion that men don’t REALLY place much REAL importance on the ESSENTIALS of ”
With regards to what you said above…..
Men don’t have “NEEDS”, they have “WANTS”. And that is why they are better suited and more capable to live without - and not complain -when things aren’t going their way. They don’t continualy ask themselves ‘if they are HAPPY’ the way women do. And that only ONE example of their simplicity I was referrring to earlier.
MEN don’t chase “happy”. Only women do that. Men are happiest when they are CONTENT. When women are ‘content’, they ruin everything by asking themselves (and their man) why they are not “happy”.
The real kicker to what you said above is that we want the same things… and NOTHING could be further from the truth. While all humans ‘want’ and ‘need’ a certain amount of respect, love, companionship and those on whom we can depend, a man is grateful for ANY amount of that which he receives. Women are not. Give a woman exactly what she NEEDS, WANTS, ASKS FOR and ADMITS TO and she will STILL not be satisfied… let alone “happy”.
This has been proven time and time again by every man I have ever known, in every situation I have experienced first-hand.
So….. are women like cats??
Cats are independent. They dont listen. They dont come when you call. They like to stay out all night. They come home and expect to be fed and stroked, then want to be left alone and sleep. In other words, every quality that women HATE in a MAN, they LOVE in a cat.
They sneak around, don’t get along with other cats, are attention hungry, are temperamental and enjoy being petted. Cats do what they want. They rarely listen to you. They’re totally unpredictable. They whine when they are not happy. When you want to play, they want to be alone. When you want to be alone, they want to play. They expect you to cater to their every whim. They’re moody. They leave hair everywhere.
Men on the other hand are a lot like dogs. They get along easier with other dogs, are loyal, horny and simply put, basic creatures. But just like men, dogs have one downfall… they chase cats / women.
I have never actually seen a dog catch a cat - let alone know what to do with one if they did - which makes me wonder why they even bother.
- C
October 4th, 2006 at 11:22 pm
I’m an ordinary man,
Who desires nothing more than just an ordinary chance,
to live exactly as he likes,
and do precisely what he wants.
An average man am I,
of no eccentric whim,
Who likes to live his life, free of strife,
doing whatever he thinks is best, for him.
I’m just an ordinary man…..
BUT!
Let a woman in your life . . . and your serenity is through,
she’ll redecorate your home,
from the cellar to the dome,
Then go on to the ENTHRALLING fun of overhauling YOU!
Let a woman in your life, and you’re up against a wall,
make a plan and you will find,
she has something else in mind,
and so rather than do either, you do something else that NIETHER likes at all.
You want to talk of Keats or Milton,
she only wants to talk of “Love”,
You go to see a play or concert,
you’ll spend it searching for her glove.
Let a woman in your life
and you invite eternal strife,
Let them buy their wedding bands
for those ANXIOUS little hands…
I’d be equally as willing
for a DENTIST to be DRILLING
. . . . than to ever let a woman in my life.
I’m a very gentle man,
even-tempered and good-natured
whom you’ll NEVER hear complain,
Who has the milk of human kindness
by the quart in every vein,
A patient man am I, down to my fingertips,
the sort who never could, ever would,
let an insulting remark escape his lips.
A very gentle man…
BUT!
Let a woman in your life, and patience hasn’t got a chance!
She will BEG you for advice
Your reply will be concise,
And she’ll listen VERY nicely, then go out and do PRECISELY what she WANTS!!!
You’re a man of grace and polish,
who never spoke above a hush,
Now all at once you’re using language
that would make a HOOKER blush!
Let a woman in your life,
and you’re plunging in a knife!!!
Let the others of my sex, TIE THE KNOT around their NECKS.
I’d prefer a new edition, of the Spanish Inquisition
than to ever let a woman in my life.
I’m a quiet living man,
who prefers to spend the evening in the silence of his room,
who likes an atmosphere as restful as an undiscovered tomb,
A pensive man am I, of philosophic joys,
who likes to meditate, contemplate,
free from humanity’s mad inhuman noise,
A quiet living man….
BUT!!
Let a woman in your life… and your sabbatical is through.
In a line that never ends
come an army of her friends,
Come to jabber and to chatter , and to tell her what the matter is with YOU!
She’ll have a booming boisterous family,
who will descend on you en mass,
she’ll have a large Wagnarian mother,
with a voice that shatters glass!
Let a woman in your life?
Let a woman in your life??
Let a woman in your life???
I shall never let a woman in my life.
- My Fair Lady (1964)
October 5th, 2006 at 8:58 am
Maybe an ANDROID is a better idea after all.
October 11th, 2006 at 3:12 pm
“It’s interesting, isn’t it? I truly don’t know if certain people give off a particular “vibeâ€? that attracts the wrong type of attention, from the wrong type of person.”
—Zogmama
Well, I’m not sure about that. I have noticed (and experienced myself) that good, respectful, innocent or otherwise extremely decent people of either gender will often be made to suffer constantly without any just reason as to why. The blame can be laid in a million different places.
I’m more for treating people as people: human beings all, regardless of gender. I don’t care about what’s between your legs, it’s what is in your mind that matters. After all a body is not a person, just a support system for the consciousness.
“Maybe an ANDROID is a better idea after all.”
—Chris
This might be totally off topic (and most likely a flawed suggestion on many levels) but what about such lifesize sextoys for men in prison? Oh, women too, they make male dolls as well. But I mean for those men who have not commited a sex crime, or perhaps especially for those men, (I don’t know) they should have a ‘companion.’
People give quite good reviews of these ‘dolls’ and I was thinking basically along the lines of: If a man’s stolen a car and been sentenced to years of jail, shouldn’t he be given one? Just a simple example… Inmates are given television and books and other things helpful to keep their minds occupied etc. But there are other needs/wants.
I know, there’s room for all kinds of trouble, but if you ever went to jail for YEARS for some crime that did not harm another human beings’ health/survival/wellbeing, you’d want a little more than your hand/same-sex cellmate for company. Or maybe not. But I think the option should be available.
Heh… Don’t worry dakota, I probably won’t post here again, especially not if you don’t want me to. Just a random suggestion. Since the topic was on artificial female companions, so to speak.
October 13th, 2006 at 5:06 am
Hi Biz. I welcome your posts on my blog. And Dakota, you need to post more. Russian brides or whatever.
Best,
-wolfe
October 13th, 2006 at 5:08 am
meh. Bad link. wolfe.mabtw.com. Shan’t try and push the Wordpress system again.
(and no, Biz, I think your gyndroids for cellmates approach is nutty… but interesting)
-wolfe.
October 13th, 2006 at 8:10 pm
Thanks wolfe. I don’t need a link to your blog though, I’ve still got it bookmarked. (I bookmark all blogs I post on in case people reply, or to easily check back on good topics, etc.)
True that it’s a nutty idea, could do with much thinking through (if ever some rich entity decided to put it into action) but it’s the thought that counts, eh? Or whatever.
Peace
November 17th, 2006 at 11:40 am
Interesting Post Dakota but I refuse artificial pussy. Tho they may look good in sitting in the corner of your room. I agree with most of what Chris says here. No, I take that back.. I agree with everything he has said here. The cat and dog analogy has always been a belief of mine. I noticed the simularities when I was a kid.
As for good women they are as rare as snowstorms in the Sahara. I thought I had met one once but that changed after the wedding cake. Never again.